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Is there any reference to look up serial numbers for Walther PP"s and PPK"s from late 30"s through 1945?Thanks for any responses.
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martin08 ---- I don"t really care to join another forum but would like to find out the approx. date my wartime PPK was made. Its serial number is 389421k. There are machine marks on the slide and frame that have not been polished out so I"m thinking my piece was produced some time from mid war to late war time. The grip panels are gray plastic with streaks of black. It has an eagle c stamp on the frame just behind the trigger and it came with a pressed paper cardboard holster with a magazine pocket on the front. The high spots of the holster have ware spots on it like it was worn under a rough coat or jacket. Thanks for your help.
If the PPK with that serial number also has a K-suffix, then yes, it is 1939.The RZM has had a few fakes. But the position of the characters on the slide address should confirm real or not.The original grips on the RZM could be a long shot. These have the early grip design with the screw going from left to right. I haven"t looked for a grip for mine in several years now. But I couldn"t find a proper grip when I looked.Almost every original grip which is for sale is the design with the grip screw from the right to the left.My RZM below, quite rough, but I still like it.
The bottom picture is of the RZM with so called "Party Leader" grips described in my OP. Pretty sure not original to the gun. As you said, would be difficult to find the proper original grips. Price: $1,650.00.The other three pictures are of a PP, with RFV marking on the inside strap. It"s in a Cabela"s near a friend of mine, who sent it to me today. It does look a little rough, but Price is $1,099.00, plus tax. May get it for a little less. It"s more cost effective for sure.
The picture for the RZM PPK is far too small to observe any great detail. About the only feature which can be confirmed to be correct for the early production pistol is the 90deg safety lever travel. Later production shortened the safety lever travel to approximately 70deg.My expertise at detecting original vs repro party leader grip via photograph is not good. So I can"t help much there. But an RZM at under $2,000 is a hint that the party leader grip is 99% likely to be modern replacement
Contact Legacy Collectibles. He has an extensive database of WWII and earlier PP and PPK serial numbers. He also has a You Tube channel where he features various collectible WWII and earlier guns, mostly German, along with the history associated with them.
Martin 08——The serial on my PPK 774882 does not have a prefix or suffix, also grip screw travels from right to left, replacements....year of manufacture?
Martin 08——The serial on my PPK 774882 does not have a prefix or suffix, also grip screw travels from right to left, replacements....year of manufacture?
Your serial falls into no-man"s-land, as the last serial noted for 1931 is 770,5XX, and the first serial for 1932 is 774,9XX. There is also a caveat that the dating list is compiled from collected serial data. My guess? You have an early 1932. Yours should also have the 90deg safety on the left side.
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Martin, Yes does have the 90 degree safety, I thought the pistol was close to the beginning of production..thanks for the help.
Martin 08——The serial on my PPK 774882 does not have a prefix or suffix, also grip screw travels from right to left, replacements....year of manufacture?
Greetings. I inherited my fathers PPK and am trying to reference when it was manufactured based on it"s serial number which is 228117. I was told it was used in the war by my grandfather in Germany. I will post some pictures for you here.Thank you in advance for your help.
based on it"s serial number which is 228117. I was told it was used in the war by my grandfather in Germany. I will post some pictures for you here.Thank you in advance for your help.
If you join the P.38 Forum, there is a Serial Number Chart in the informational section of the Al PP & PPK - World War 2 subforum.If you just want an approximate build date, put up up your serial number, to include the suffix if any, and I can go to the forum and look it up for you.
Greetings. I inherited my fathers PPK and am trying to reference when it was manufacturedbased on it"s serial number which is 228117. I was told it was used in the war by my grandfather in Germany. I will post some pictures for you here.Thank you in advance for your help.View attachment 3799994View attachment 3799995View attachment 3799996View attachment 3799997View attachment 3799998View attachment 3799999View attachment 3800000based on it"s serial number which is 228117. I was told it was used in the war by my grandfather in Germany. I will post some pictures for you here.Thank you in advance for your help.
Can"t give you a date of Manufacture but it is post war for sure, Sam Cummings Interarms wasn"t even founded until 1953
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The box is post war, the "68 (1968) by the proof date on the barrel along with what looks like (it"s hard to see from your picture) a post war German proof on the frame by the serial number all show that your PPK was made in the late sixties. Walther moved to Ulm/Do after WWII because their old plant at Zella/Mathis was in the Russian zone of occupation. I have one that was also made in "68 with a serial number that is 96K numbers earlier. I"m sorry, but family lore aside, there is no way that your gun was used in WWII.
Here is a PP & PPK serial number list I copied many years ago. I don"t recall where I found it. It isn"t extensive but it should help.

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BillEvery problem can be solved through the proper application of explosives, duct tape, teflon, WD-40, or any combo of the aforementioned items.A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don"t have one, you"ll probably never need one again!Why is it that 46% of the population which pay NO taxes, complain that those who do pay taxes, are not paying their fair share?"Political Correctness" is an attempt to convince people it is possible to pick-up a turd by its "clean end."
If you join the P.38 Forum, there is a Serial Number Chart in the informational section of the Al PP & PPK - World War 2 subforum.If you just want an approximate build date, put up up your serial number, to include the suffix if any, and I can go to the forum and look it up for you.
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